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February 9, 2012 |  41 comments |  Print  Your Opinion  

Fear No More and Engage Iran

Sascha Lohmann: A fear-based policy by the US and its allies toward Iran is not likely to solve the nuclear standoff peacefully any time soon. Instead, a strategy of engagement that takes the psychological predispositions of the actors seriously is the only way to achieve this goal.

With sanctions and covert action apparently failing to significantly constrain Tehran's nuclear program, the coercive US approach - at first fully supported by Israel and recently also by the EU - now shifts toward the next stage: military action. The recent posturing of US and Iranian naval forces around the Strait of Hormuz and the accompanying rhetorical exchanges to either close or keep this vital chokepoint for the global oil supply open, is only the latest landmark of the slippery slope toward open escalation. Examining the dynamics and drivers underlying this conflict and the relative ineffectiveness of a military strike makes clear that a strategy of engagement is the only way forward.

To start with, the interaction between the US and Iran takes place in the absence of trust which feeds a vicious spiral of mutual suspicion and distrust. Accordingly, the cognitive frames of policy makers, that fundamentally shape the assumptions about intentions as well as the perceptions of behavior, and eventually drive policy choices on both sides are greatly determined by fear. Whilst this has held true for Iran ever since the overthrow of Mossadegh was orchestrated by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1953, fear came to fully dominate the policy of the US and its allies only in the aftermath of 2002 when the clandestine research efforts by Iran into enrichment and conversion were discovered.

In theory, a fear-based policy not only reinforces zero-sum calculations of the actors involved but also creates the dilemma to show resolve in situations in which they would be better off with acquiescence. In practice, a fear-based policy has rendered the mastering of the full nuclear fuel-cycle, to which Iran is entitled as a signatory of the Non Proliferation Treaty, unacceptable as the weaponization of the nuclear program could then be easily achieved. At the same time, and in conjunction with the implicit threats of outside regime change in case of doing so, a fear-based policy has meanwhile increased the incentives for Tehran to develop such a nuclear breakout capability. As a result, overcoming this dilemma has become almost impossible because as a precondition for ending the standoff one side necessarily needs to give in to the other.

Giving in is closely related to loss and we know from political psychology that actors are more risk-acceptant in the domain of losses than in the domain of gains. A nuclear Iran would be a tremendous loss for US policy, to the same extent as the abandonment of the nuclear program would be for Iran. Therefore, the step that brings such fear-based policies to its logical end is a military strike. But considering its most likely consequences are destabilizing the entire region, alienating the Iranian public and further weakening moderate forces, while not diminishing the amassed knowledge about nuclear enrichment, it should have become clear at this point that a fear-based policy ultimately leads to a dead-end. What needs to be done instead is adding gains to the equation. In fact, this can only by done through a strategy of engagement for which detailed propositions and frameworks, with step-by-step implementation, already exist.

The window of opportunity for engaging Iran is still open, given the most recent threat assessment of the US intelligence community that found no evidence that Tehran has decided to build a nuclear weapon. This is also congruent with the November IAEA report that, despite its suspecting language, arrived at the same conclusion. Against this backdrop, it is time for the EU to reactivate its own Iran policy because it is European policy makers who are least driven by fear.

Sascha Lohmann is a recent graduate of Free University in Berlin.

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Paul-Robert  Lookman

February 9, 2012

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The key argument in the author’s op-ed is the fear factor. While it is probably true that Iran is fearful of US/NATO/“the West”, it seems to me that it’s not the other way around. Western policy makers and the mass media have constantly but artificially whipped up fear for Iran, a country that has no record of wars of aggression for ages. With the fear-equation in reality one-way traffic, the author’s argument that “fear” has rendered Iran’s “mastering of the full nuclear fuel-cycle” unacceptable seems too farfetched.

As Alexander Pyka convincingly argued earlier on this site, Iran did violate its safeguard agreement by not declaring its nuclear facilities prior to 2002, but a country has the option to heal such breaches, which is what Iran did. The possible violation would not have forfeited its right to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes and merely serve as an indication of military intentions, not proof, Pyka argued.

Finally, as regards the author’s recommendation for Europe to get its act together on Iran, I feel history shows that there is no such thing as a European foreign policy, or an “Iran-policy” for that matter, as the EU is loyally following Washington’s flawed Iran policy. The only realistic approach is the start of negations on the basis of mutual respect, accepting the status quo in which Iran has developed into a major regional power, lift sanctions and - again to borrow from Alexander Pyka - start negotiations aimed at multilateralization of the nuclear fuel cycle in or outside Iran, with the help of Europe, Brazil, Turkey and the IAEA.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 9, 2012

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This article hints that the EU can more easily start down the path of engagement with Iran without losing face than the US, which is probably true. But:

A) Are you really arguing that the EU take a strong leading role in setting a new policy of engagement with Iran? That is, in your US/EU steps from the previous memo, do you now think the EU needs to be the leading actor?

B) Do you think it is plausible for the EU to make this step while it is dealing with all of its other issues? In other words, there are problems with coherent EU foreign policy in general, how can we ensure it takes a united stand here?

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C) If the EU CAN'T get its act together, could you see a subset of European allies making these overtures themselves and achieving the same function?
 
Vince A.M. Klösters

February 9, 2012

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As an important aside, Khamenei's rhetoric is mostly aimed at a so-called Zionist network and American imperialists. It is first and foremost an anti-establishment attitude before anything else. He targets governments, not people, in his rhetoric, and recently stated that Europe will need to cut itself loose from the yoke of American imperialists.

When reading between the lines, this rhetoric gives hope for European-led engagement. The most likely case would be back channel/track two diplomatic contact. A neutral party should obviously also attend, i.e. Brazil or Indonesia.

If anything, better communications should be established. A lack of communication leads to miscalculations and the inevitable conflicts that will ensue as a result of this.
Tags: | Iran | rapprochement | Indonesia | Brazil | EU | Khamenei |
 
Jason  Naselli

February 9, 2012

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I agree, Vince, but another key part of this is figuring out WHO to establish this communication with. It seems that the Iranian ruling elite are becoming fragmented between various groups struggling for power, so how can we ensure that not only is the message correct, but that is reaching the right people?

To me, this involves making engagement not only palatable to Iran, but also Russia and China, who are closer to the Tehran regime and can be key partners in helping ensure we are hitting the real power brokers and not some back-channel fake.
 
Sascha  Lohmann

February 9, 2012

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Thank you all for your comments. Whereas I limited my analysis to the driving forces of the escalatory nature of the conflict, let me briefly elaborate on its conclusion, namely that the EU should intensify its efforts at engaging Iran.

Given the absence of diplomatic relations between the US and Iran, the available foreign policy expertise when it comes to dealing with Tehran is regrettably limited in US foreign policy (Stephen Walt makes the same point in one of his latest blog posts). Those observers who have extended experience with Iran, such as John Limbert or Gary Sick, do indeed provide insightful analyses which mostly end up advocating engagement. The great majority of pundits, however, uncritically perpetuate the negative steroetypes about the Islamic republic in the absence of any meaningful real-life experience. Nevertheless, they all seem to conlcude, as Aaron rightly mentioned in his OP-Ed, that "if we blow stuff up then good things will happen."

Because uranium enrichment is at the core of the standoff, converntial wisdom about Iranian intentions highlight the strategic dimension of the program. But the various statements by Iranian representatives at conferences and talks reveal that it is in fact the strive for modernity, independence and self-esteem that drive Iranian foreign policy. This is equally true for the US which is why an independent Iranian enrichment capability would be a perceived loss. So in order to make prudent foreign policy decisions, we need to be aware of the respective cultural context and how it shapes the rationality of the actors and than adjust policy accordingly.

And this is where the EU comes in. As a matter of fact, European governments, and especially Germany and France, have extensive experince with Iran. Vince has correctly pointed at back-channel negotiations as a potential entry point for engagement (which would be even more effective if EU and Turkish policy makers acted together and that could eventually serve the purpose of overcoming the recent estrangement between the two).

These negotiations must then be based on realistic objectives, and zero-enrichment in Iran does not fall in this category. Based on the upcoming evaluation of the nuclear inspectors currently visiting Iran, a roadmap toward a multilateralized fuel-cycle situated within a strong inspection regime must be developed. At the same time, the nuclear weapon states must start reducing their arsenals. There is a lot to negotiate about and incentives could be structured the way that would serve the interests of moderates in both countries in their upcoming elections. In any case, it is indisensible that the EU reestablishes its role as an honest mediator between two increasingly intransigent opponents that have no other choice than come to terms with each other.

 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 10, 2012

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The author uses a very basic trick: he is framing a very basic analytical term in a suggestive way. Instead of using the word “fear”, he could have just used the term “expectations” – but that wouldn´t have worked for his argument. From the concept of the argument, the terms are used in the same manner, because expectations form the backbone of decisions and actions; so does fear. But by using the word “fear” the author suggests that the decisionmakers´ expectations are driven by an irrational sentiment; “fear” is usually for describing a state of instinct, rather than rational calculation. But if we use “expectations” instead of fear those expectations who do not predict Tehran to comply with engaging measures are completely rational. Normally ones based future expectations about the adversary´s behavior form his respective behavior in the past – and anticipates him acting in a similar way, taking his considerations and realities on the ground into account. So, as Tehran was constantly playing cat-and-mouse with the Western powers (which at least some begin to acknowledge, I believe), it is totally rational to NOT expect Tehran to cope with complying behavior in Western interests (which, let´s keep it simple, is: no nuclear weapon in the hands of the regime) in the future.

At first, this argument caught me quite by surprise, because I thought the author´s negotiations approach was based on the premise of rational choice and consensus. But then I realized, of course, we first have to overcome the distrust and – in that instance – fear between the two actors in order to be able to use some kind of rational choice approach (which ensures by the way perhaps thousands of PhD candidates to work on their thesis, but the advanced teachers can tell about the immense problems of using rational choice-based negotiation models in practice). Therefore, we have to educate the decisionmakers, because they obviously don´t know what they are doing, before we can find a solution.

Fair as that, but I don´t see the point of what exactly the author wants to teach our decisionmakers. In his view, the Iranians are solely driven by a sentiment rooting in the 1953 Mossadegh-plot and can therefore do nothing but hate the Americans and have to be understood in their anger and distrust. It is like nothing happened since 1953, no Islamic Revolution, no velaq-e faith, no torture prisons and mass killings, no Iran-Iraq war, no terrorism on the international stages and on and on and on … (the author often uses the term "negative stereotypes" which bears cynisicm in the eyes of hundreds of thousands of victims and millions of refugess, who fled the country for very good reasons)

In fact, I am following another debate in the news – perhaps one of us is mistaken about the subject matter. This discussion is about Iran, right? Is the author looking at another spot on the map as I am? The description of the Islamic Republic of Iran the author pictured in his articles is in fact totally interchangeable, despite maybe the Mossadegh-thing, with any other nation (maybe a "flawed democracy") in the world – like on a drawing board, like we are playing an interaction game with Agents A, B and C here.

Given the expertise of the author (which I assume he has), I can only conclude that he does not consider the aspects I mentioned in many discussions as relevant (international terrorism, assassination attempts, martyr ideology, extreme domestic violence and crackdowns, torture prisons etc.). Like – to say in that language – “exogenous” to the determining parameters of the model. I repeatedly made the case and brought arguments to counter the underlying premises of this model, but none of these have been taken into consideration by the author, so I failed in that attempt – the argument at stake here therefore remains totally the same, not touched by a single bit of the realities on the ground. No mentioning of Syria, the Arab Spring and potential afflictions – no renewed stark anti-Israel rhetoric (religious justification by government main media outled for “annihilation of the Jews”), no crisis of the domestic economy, no sanctions impact analysis (e.g. central bank, crude oil), nothing about the Russian/Chinese UN Security Council veto – and honestly, I can only assume the author was not interested in the IAEA report at all if he still believes that no evidence is found that Tehran acquires nuclear weapons (which is true, but all the indications are sound and leave no other conclusion than to assume this – the reports highlights this; of course the IAEA can´t find hard evidence if their work in Iran is not granted to be autonomous and fully transparent – and, why again wouldn´t they do so, if there was nothing to hide?). Then what exactly are we here arguing about and why is this topic causing so much international attention and worries? Again, are we still talking about Iran?

Let me just give one reference here, and then I´m done: http://www.realite-eu.org/site/c.9dJBLLNkGiF/b.2300261/apps/s/conte...

The argument of the author remains in a nutshell that has completely lost any touch with reality.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 10, 2012

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Niklas,

So let me get this straight... if the IAEA isn't let in to the country, it's clearly because they have something to hide, but if the IAEA is let in, and doesn't find anything, it's clearly because they were prevented from seeing the evidence by the Iranian government, because they've got something to hide.

And is it really smart to base expectations on past behaviour when there appears to be so much infighting and flux in the Iranian regime right now? Ahmadinejad has practically disappeared from view!

So what is your alternative solution?
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 10, 2012

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Jason,

Iran lets the IAEA in on their conditions, so they can´t see what they want to see. That´s what is in the report, the IAEA states that Iran sought to hide its activities and installations from the IAEA.

As I stated a few days ago: Those who still don´t believe in the military intentions of Iran´s nuclear program won´t get it before a nuclear warhead is heading to Tel Aviv.

But really, I don´t know what to say anymore, according to my research I concluded already three years ago that Iran´s intentions are aggressive and the nuclear program is pursued for military purposes. Year after year new reports made it clearer and clearer - lately the new IAEA report (and in the next week there will maybe an even more explicit one). And politicians are slowly starting to get it now. Are they all fooled?

Me and my collegue Felix Seidler outlined a few months ago, that Syria´s cut-off from the Iran-axis might be crucial and should be pursued. That´s what I´d say should be the first priority.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 10, 2012

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Iran is behaving just like North Korea and a myriad of other states have... rattling the nuclear sabres because they are dealing from a pretty weak deck. The fact is Iran is pretty isolated in its own neighbourhood right now, and cutting off Syria makes them more isolated and gives them less to lose by pursuing a nuclear strategy.

Think about it... why doesn't everyone want a nuclear weapon? Because there are costs to pay, imposed by international regimes, for pursuing a weaponization program, that in the case of most countries are far too high. But when you've got nothing else to lose, what's to stop you?

What we need to do is give Iran real reasons to not pursue a nuclear weapon. That could be by engaging, and giving them more to lose, or it could even come by making the costs too high, namely getting Russia and China to agree to cut off Tehran as well if they continue down that path.

But further isolating them does nobody any good.
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 10, 2012

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Jason,

as I see it, Iran has paid an enormous price for the continuance of its weaponization program at the expense of resources necessary to settle the domestic economy and regain popular silence. We can see that in cutting social services and after that, cutting of monetary supply for military proxies (i.e. Hezbollah) before the nuclear program - in notably this very order. That gives insight into the priorities of the regime.

My interpretation thus is, that Iran is determined to carry out the nuclear armament by any means. If that is true, only isolation can weaken the regime and lead them to a dead end.

If that is true, there is nothing that Iran is willing to gain at the expense of the nuclear program - irrational as it sounds; but this very dynamic lies at the core of the Islamic Republic from the beginning.

As I see it, all the regime´s steps over the last years can only be interpreted in this very fashion.
 
Sascha  Lohmann

February 10, 2012

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Niklas, thank you for your comment and as proof that I do consider your arguments, which I think are highly valuable to the debate and also save it from becoming too consensual, let me respond to the points you raised.

Your observation that I attempted to reframe an otherwise objective analytical term gives me the opportunity to elaborate on a common misunderstanding so prevalent in the debate and in political science in general: you cannot separate emotions from rationality. There is a vast literature originating from neuroscience that gradually makes its way into political science and which provides convincing evidence that rationality without feelings does not work (McDermott 2004 The Feeling of Rationality). The reason why theories of deterrence and strategic bargaining produce so blatantly incorrect predictions is because the factors that shape the behavior of actors remain outside their scope conditions. (This fact has already been acknowledged by rational bargaining theorists.) Hence, “rational” choice models do not work because they fail to take into account the psychological factors and cultural settings of the actors. Moreover, we should also be careful to not to entirely “base[…] future expectations about the adversary’s behavior form his respective behavior in the past” because of the well-known hindsight bias. The unexpected end of the Cold War is just the most prominent example in this regard.

Once we conceive emotions and reason as mutually constitutive for rationality, we can go on and explore how they influence the cognitive frames of policy makers. You rightly mentioned that expectations form the backbone of decisions but how they are derived depends on whether or not you are driven by fear. And this is exactly why an Iranian nuclear capability is perceived so differently than one of France or Britain (which are right next to us…). So whether or not you think Iran pursues a nuclear weapon is first and foremost an emotional belief (see the IO article by Jonathan Mercer 2010 Emotional Beliefs) which cannot be proofed either right or wrong because we just don’t know at the moment. The only thing we can do is to avoid the fallacy of viewing the conflict in simple black-or-white terms and label this reality.

And this is also why sanctions are not the way forward as they run contrary to the goals you pursue which is preventing war and improving human rights. The question, as John Limbert recently put it, is not whether but how we need to talk to Iran (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/02/07/we_need_to_talk_to...). And as a matter of fact, the very issues you are concerned about such as “international terrorism, assassination attempts, martyr ideology, extreme domestic violence and crackdowns, torture prisons etc.” can only be appropriately addressed within a wider regional security framework and not by connecting it solely to the nuclear issue.
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 10, 2012

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Sascha,

the crucial point being remains the same: whom you consider as a legitimate adversary partner for rapproachment; you have made it abundantly clear that it can only be the Iranian regime. We have been discussing whether the regime is to be seen monolithically or pluralistic and I have raised the argument that indeed its plurality and vibrancy of internal struggles forms its uncompromising, dangerous and unpredictable character. Its character can only be understood by looking into the ideological core of the Islamic Revolution.

For that very reason, the lack of understanding of the weltanschauung of the Islamic Revolution the past attempts have failed. Instead you repeatedly addressed Iran as representable by the framework of any other nation state. No analysis will come close to describing Iran´s situation with geostrategic on-the-ground realities, but neither will it without taking the ideology and psychology of its political leadership into account. Nearly all the eminent occasions resulting from Iran´s policies are impossible to understand without knowing the ideological background.

Other nation states do not organize holocaust denial conferences, do not assassinate Jewish civilians abroad, make assassination attempts in other countries and praise the Twelfth Imam in broad public and connect their political reasoning to his upcoming appearance.

The result is, what has been stated repeatedly, another form of appeasement policy.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 10, 2012

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Ah, but the key is not so much the Iranian character as that of Russia and China, who remain unconvinced by Western sanctions and see a rerun of previous missteps. We need to make the effort to engage Iran for the benefit a wider international audience. If, as you say, Iran summarily rejects such overtures and continues to relentlessly pursue the bomb, we'll have more allies to stop them, not an international deadlock. The fact is that even if you are correct, the current Western approach is unconvincing to other important international actors.
 
Carmine  Finelli

February 11, 2012

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Thank you to everyone for the very interesting debate about Iran. When the Iran nuclear issue came to the fore, a couple of year ago, George Friedman (CEO at Stratfor) said that the U.S. had to engage Iran with diplomacy. In the Friedman's opinion, military option could weaken U.S. in Middle East because of the reaction of China and, probably, of Russia. Mutata mutandis, I believe such a scenario is more plausible than others. We do not consider, and this debate it is not an exception, the regional context. In his latest book "A single roll of the dice: Obama's diplomacy with Iran", professor Trita Parsi argues that the stalemate in the relations between U.S. and Iran depends on Israel and Saudi Arabia intransigence about talks with Teheran.

In my own view, the military option is the extrema ratio in the hand of U.S. As a matter of fact, history teaches that to cut regional powers off the political arena is the worst thing can happens in a stretched regional landscape as the Middle East. Think, for example, at the Germany at the end of the WW 1. So, it is important to increase diplomatical efforts to avoid a military escalation. In this way U.S. will not pay the highest price and they could continue their penetration strategy in Middle East versus Russia and China.

At last, I don't agree with the fear argument. The Iranian elites are not so fool to use nuclear power towards Israel. It is a risk, sure. But a first strike from Iran it is not realistic. The Israel fear is not due to security concerns. Israel is worried to lose its supremacy in the region, otherwise. And Obama seems to understood that in 2009 when he gave his disocurs in Cairo. In Davutoglu words, the U.S. politic behaviour in Middle East has not a "strategic depth" as long as it remains hooked on Israel interests. Making deal with Teheran is seems to me the only way to secure Israel and the U.S interests in Middle East.

 
Sascha  Lohmann

February 11, 2012

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As Jason and Carmine have thankfully pointed to the regional dimension, let me briefly reiterate the centrality of US-Iranian relations in the conflict. Notwithstanding that Russia and China as veto powers play a crucial role in tightening the multilateral sanction noose, that the Sunni-Shia division with regard to Saudi-Arabia is an important background condition, and that the strategic rational of Israeli leaders not to loose their perceived deterrent capability decisively influences the threat discourse, the analysis must start with acknowledging that Iran is a parvenu power primarily concerned with seeking recognition and legitimacy from the international community.

As a consequence, the more Iran is being isolated internationally, the more it will leash out toward Israel and the US. Because doing so serves first and foremost instrumental purposes, Niklas is misled in believing that the primary objective of Iran’s foreign policy is to annihilate Israel. Of course anti-zionism is a cornerstone of the Islamic republic’s identity, but its invocation is more of a vehicle to garner the so much needed attention on the world stage. This becomes all the more apparent as the commitment of the US, Germany, and the West in general, to stand by Israel is unshakable and that any attack by Iran would cause immediate condemnation and retaliation.

So, why are US-Iranian relations at the core of the conflict? Well, because the appetite of Iran’s leaders for respect and recognition can only be appropriately satisfied by the US. This is also why we included “acknowledgment of misbehavior in the past” as a crucial step in our framework of concrete reciprocity with which to engage Iran.

Last but not least, Niklas rightly mentioned the struggle to have the Supreme Leader’s ear as well as the political infights among the different groups that pose the main obstacle for rapprochement with the US. But not so, as one might assume, because of its general unthinkability. Quite to the contrary, this is mostly due to the fact that each group begrudges the other not to succeed in opening the country toward the West. As a matter of fact, there is no such thing as an adversarial ideology toward an engagement policy based on concrete reciprocity as Niklas suggests. The assumption that Iran is an irrational actor and that the West has no partner for engagement is an emotional belief and one should be careful to derive policy recommendations from it.
 
Carmine  Finelli

February 11, 2012

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I agree wit you Sacha when you referred to Iran as a parvenu seeking for recognition. And this is why it will never use the nuclear weapon. I agree also with the assumption that U.S. - Iranian relations are the core question, but don't you think the US political conduct changes as the regional context changes? I mean only with the support of Turkey and Saudi Arabia the U.S fear-strategy could succeed. And what about the iranian ties with Beijing and Moscow? In a direct confrontantion the U.S on which ally can rely to win its struggle?
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 12, 2012

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Sascha,

the argument in respect of state-run anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism: of course it carries the consideration you mentioned, but interpreting it solely as a means to get attention is the typical old-fashioned appeasement interpretation. Anti-Semitism invokes irrational fears and salvation myths and the seed of hatred breed the desire for annihilation. As rationalized as it might appear, it contains the possible dynamic in this irrational sentiment and therefore also the real expectation of people to actually pursue genocide. Put simple: anti-Semitism has empirically shown to be a possible option in reality for state-enforced genocide and people who use that very language are dangerous and unpredictable. The appeasement interpretation "if we give them what the want, they might retreat from radical positions" does not apply for Middle Eastern politics. Retreating is generally seen as weakness. Weakening the support for Israel is interpreted in Tehran as a chance to carry out the maximum program: that is indeed, annihilation.

Again, I never claimed the Iranian regime is irrational - precisely because I view an aggregate of political action being termed rational or irrational as an illusion. We have to say, rationality and irrationality might be part of the same thing, there is no fully fledged distinction; the term is highly problematic for the purpose we are talking about here. Example: we both would surely agree that anti-Semitism is irrational, it has nothing to do with the actions or reality of a real group but only with the projections in the mind of the anti-Semite - but, of course, rationally one can make politics with sentiment. As I indicated in my argument before: don´t underestimate the danger involved.

Again simply put: there is no possibility from an Israeli point of view to let someone who openly calls for the eradication of the Jewish people get the technical means to do so. And in the same manner, there is no point in listening to the voices of a world that let genocide once happen and always thinks to know what is good and bad for the Jewish people.

All I am saying is the end: of course, there is rational means in negotiations in pursuing a goal. But your assumptions for pursuing the goal we both share (Stop Iran getting a nuclear bomb) are in my view naive and misinformed about the adversary actor we are dealing about. Therefore I criticized the simplification and shortcomings of your analysis of the political situation in Iran. I think I made my point here and there is nothing much we ca go deeper into at this point, because we obviously did completely different research; so we can leave it here at this point.

A last point though: if you feel the need to rephrase my argument, please do so accurately; you repeatedly did not refer to my argument but a bastardized version.
 
Joshua  Clapp

February 13, 2012

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Thank you everyone for the discussion. As Jason pointed out, Europe is more suited for engagement with Iran. Whether or not the US would support such a move (or Europe is capable of acting in a united fashion) is another question. And eventually embedding Iran into a regional framework appears to be an important step towards easing tensions within the region and granting Iran the recognition it so desires. But does anyone actually have a plan to fully integrate Shias into a region dominated by Sunnis given the mutual hostility?

And I do not see how the discussion of ‘emotional beliefs’ in any way diminishes Niklas’ points about the Iranian regime being unpredictable due to internal struggles or the regime’s nuclear program. Unfortunately, we can never be 100% certain of most things in this life; by extension, an emotional belief is not by necessity wrong.

And Sascha, I am not sure how you can state that, while antisemitism is at the core of the Iranian government, this feature of the regime is more of a way to garner attention. How you can assign such a rational stance to Iran and seemingly dismiss the possibility that this represents the regime’s actual belief? To reiterate what Niklas already pointed out: From the Israeli point of view, the Israeli state can do nothing but assume this is in fact Iran’s position and not merely an attention-getter.
 
Florian  Broschk

February 13, 2012

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The Western discussion on Iran suffers by thinking in closed circles from the outside: some issues (terrorism, anti-semitism, irrationality) are taken out of their context, repeated ad nauseam, being slightly changed each time into the ugly picture of Iran being hell-bent on a second Holocaust. Mr. Anziger's statement above ("someone who openly calls for the eradication of the Jewish people") is a case on point: that is definitively gross nonsens. Iran has about 25.000 Jewish citizens, including a representative in the parliament. Iran calls openly for the removal of the Israeli state, not the eradication of the Jewish people. The difference should be obvious, but then again these small slips are easy to make when you look on something you don't understand from the outside.

Mr. Lohmann's call for overcoming fear, which Mr. Clapp critizes, is in my opinion very valuable. For designing a strategy we need to know where we are, what we want and what we have at our disposal. And then we have to strive to understand the other players involved, instead of projecting our worst fears or - as continously done in Germany - or own history on someone else. Iran has been fairly rational in its decisionmaking so far - from the way it handled the war with Saddam Hussein's Iraq in the 1980s to the course to keep the Nuclear program (which might one day be the last chance to deter a 'regime threat'). The single constant even in the hight of the revolutionaty fever has been the survical of the system. Different opinions how this was to achieve the best are natural in every setting, but nothing suggests the Islamic Republic is more irrational than - say - the US or Israel. Both of whom not only have Nuclear weapons but also - unlike Iran - attacked other countries repeatedly in the past few years and - unlike Iran on them - threaten a first-strike on Iran. That said, Iranian strategymakers would do a bad job if they were guided just by fear of an attack instead of rationally weighing US and Israeli goals, options and assets - and then craft their own strategy.

The same should go for us. But then, unfortunately for us, pretty much every Iranian academic has an M.A. and/or PhD from a UK/US/French university while few Western academics have any firsthand experience of the Islamic Republic.
 
Joshua  Clapp

February 13, 2012

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Florian,

Surely some issues are taken out of context. Jews in Iran do have a long history, as references in the Bible can attest to. And there obviously is a difference between calling for the destruction of a state/regime and the annihilation of a people. But do you honestly believe Israeli leaders are politically able to or should make this distinction?

I am not criticizing the need to overcome fear. In fact, I think the US and others should engage Iran. Since US-Iranian relations are at the core of the conflict, that relationship must first be addressed. I would also say that Iran is acting rationally in pursuing its nuclear program as protection against ‘regime threats’. And you do make a good point about understanding Iran and its people.

However, what I am criticizing is the idea that Israeli leadership should apparently not worry about Iranian calls for an end to the Israeli state – that these calls are merely for getting attention and nothing more. Let’s be honest: national leaders will obviously take such statements at face value.
 
Florian  Broschk

February 13, 2012

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The end to the Israeli state - as Khamenei & Co envision it - is to simply be 'outbred' by Palestinians, not by an attack of Iran. They also invoke the right to return for those people who fled during the wars, as well as their descendants. This may be in line with international law, but of course it is just theoretical and will not happen (and of course it is a tactical argument because in this case international law is in line with Iranian political goals, not that they are suddenly in love with it). However, an Iranian attack on Israel would be a laughable attempt, given that the regional superpower Israel is even conventionally far superior to what Iran could muster. And then it has the Nukes. And then it is supported by the only global superpower in this world. Little wonder, that such an option has never been contemplated by Iranian politicians (note: retaliation after an Israeli strike expressively has been, but I do treat this as something fundamentally different).

And that is precisely what many experienced Israeli military, intelligence and political thinkers have uttered repeatedly: Iran is an antagonist but not an existential threat and it would not become one if having a nuclear outbreak capacity or even - unrealistic at the moment - nuclear armed. The existential threat to Israel as a Jewish democracy will remain for a long time how to retain its per definition Jewish as well as democratic character in face of a growing Christian/ Muslim minority - exactly the threat on which Iran is hoping. Although confrontation with Iran might lead to a rally-around-the-flag effect in Israel in the short term, I doubt that it is a sound strategy in the long run from the National interest. It looks much more like a prudent strategy to foster domestic support for a particular political side.
 
Joshua  Clapp

February 13, 2012

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Certainly, the calls for an end to the Israeli state might not mean an attack by Iran. I never specifically mentioned an attack precisely because of that point. I also don’t think that Iran necessarily poses an existential threat toward Israel.

Nevertheless, Iran does indeed wish for Israel to disappear in some fashion. This fact alone is important to acknowledge, and certainly does not help matters. And I am not sure how Israeli support for a particular political side would help: wouldn’t this basically doom that particular political movement from the very beginning?
 
Florian  Broschk

February 14, 2012

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I agree that Iran for Israel (as well as Israel for Iran) poses an antagonist and someone with whom to deal with on the strategic level. Engagement, as Mr. Lehmann proposes, is not an option for Israel - at least openly (in the some instances in the past, Israel and the Islamic Republic have quietly cooperated when it benefited both, for example during the Gulf War). Israel has little to offer and Israeli vocal support for any Iranian faction would surely be a kiss of dead, I also agree. That said, Israel has one asset the rest of the West has not - they have many specialists on Iran by virtue of the Iranian Jewish community in bith countries. For a time, for example, both the Israeli president (Katsav) and the defense minister (Mofaz) were Iranians (which by the way made many in Iran quite confident back then that Isreal would never attack those guys' motherland). When it comes to analyzing Iran and its internal dymanics, Israeli agencies are actually quite good. That is probably why people like Dagan or Kochavi speak out against the exaggeration of the Iranian threat.

Indeed the most important role for Israel in any attempt to constructively settle the crisis surrounding Iran would be just to steer the Western discussion into more quiet waters. It definitely does not help at all if both the US and Israel repeatedly threaten a military attack on Iran. Unfortunately, this has become a political ritual by now.

 
Vince A.M. Klösters

February 14, 2012

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I have to agree with Florian. Israel's own antagonism towards Iran gives the latter more incentive to pursue a rhetoric posing an existential threat to Israel as a countermeasure. A large degree of the motivations behind Iran's likely nuclear ambitions are fuelled by the fact that Israel has a nuclear arsenal as well. This obviously does not give Iran a carte blanche to pursue hostile relations with its neighbours, but any comprehensive deal should also include discussions on the role of Israeli nuclear weapons.
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 14, 2012

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Joshua,

thanks for clarifying the point: Indeed we can´t know for sure what the Iranians will do with the nuclear bomb - but Israel simply has to expect the worst. Apocalypticians inside the regime are in eminent positions and them having the finger on the red button is not an option

Florian,

you raised some good points, but you are misled in your assumptions about Iranian anti-Semitism: there is indeed plurality in how evil the Israel is, to what degree only Israel is the problem, Jews are generally the seed of evil - all of them have to be annihilated or just Israel. The positions range from the extreme-apocalyptic messianism (the Ahmadinejad faction and a huge board of advisors and security officials, but also Rafsanjani), which would be willing to risk the danger of an immensely human costly counterattack to the Khatami "moderacy" to advance the military position of Iran step by step in order to pursue removing Israel gradullay by encouraging Hezbollah pressure (with potentially nuclear backing) and Palestinians´ return. Inside the regime though, there is absolute consensus about "Israel first" - therefore, the Jewish community inside Iran is not an argument at all. Attempts against them would not be beneficial for the Israel-first doctrine, they know about the international monitoring very well.

And one more point: "They also invoke the right to return for those people who fled during the wars, as well as their descendants. This may be in line with international law [...]"

This is untrue, you should know about the UNHCR and UNRWA double-standard which is by no means consistent international law but political bias from the beginning. So called "International law" is extremely volatile to political bias.
 
Sascha  Lohmann

February 14, 2012

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There are two ways to go in the debate about how the West should deal with Iran. The first is to continue with the fear-based politics of containment and the implicit goal of regime change that will ultimately lead to open escalation due to reasons I spelled out in the article or to fundamentally change course toward engagement. Looking at the effects of the primary tools of US containment (mostly congressionally mandated sanctions), their record is clear: ongoing enrichment without sufficient IAEA inspections in Iran and a fatal domestic power shift in favor of Iranian hardliners. Until today, sanctions greatly benefit the religious foundations and IRGC-owned companies while gradually destroying the economic base of the more liberal bazaaris.

This coercive policy has reliably provided the enemy foil for Tehran so desperately needed for its Islamic identity construction that would otherwise find itself hard-pressed by the century-old Iranian nationalism with which it is entirely out of sync. More consequential, it strengthened those forces in Iran that were convinced that the US would never treat Iran as an equal partner with regime change being its overall objective. With fear being the leitmotif of US Iran policy, especially prevalent in the Congress, it was made almost impossible for Rafsanjani and Khatami to carry out their reform agenda, the first with his eye on foreign investments in the oil sector (see also Amrit’s piece) and the latter with his Dialogue of Civilizations. Plus, sanctions are currently so tight that Iran would first have to turn into a Westminster-style democracy before negotiations could even be considered as a realistic choice in US foreign policy.

As a refreshing exception from the ubiquitous media chatter, our discussion touches upon the core issue of what is driving this apparently unsuccessful strategy: the underlying assumptions about the rationality of the actors involved. Niklas you argued, and I hope to get you right this time, that one can easily draw parallels between anti-Semitic rhetoric and state-enforced genocide against the backdrop of appeasement toward Nazi-Germany during the 1930s. Well, if it were that simple and the nuclear program only a function to carry out Tehran’s “maximum program: that is indeed, annihilation”, there would be in fact other, more effective means, as Florian rightly mentioned above, to do so. He also alluded to the striking fact that those with substantial experience with Iran, in Israel and the US, agree that the worst-case assumption at which the fear-based approach invariably arrives, is self-sustaining in producing negative outcomes. So how do you explain this?

Joshua, you are of course correct that unveiled treats by the highest echelons of the Iranian leadership toward Israel cannot be ignored by its current decision makers that have to take them as face value. But what then severely impedes a more contextually-grounded response is that the domestic and psychological underpinnings of these threats are mainly left out. And this has to do with emotional beliefs that do not operate according to the logic of right or wrong. It is an analytical heuristic that I employed to explain where those fear-driven policies are coming from. It enables us to identify the origins of the perceptions of policy makers who selectively engage with the empirical world around them as the factors that will in the end shape the outcome of the conflict.

And this is why the application of psychological frameworks greatly enriches the debate. We would otherwise leave out important parts of the equation such as Iran’s strive for international recognition and solely interpret actions according to firmly-held cognitive frames that are geared toward consistency. Hence, we must carefully examine on what we base our assumptions about Iranian decision maker’s rationality which I am sure would eventually “steer the Western discussion into more quiet waters”, as Florian put it.
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 14, 2012

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Sascha,

regarding your question: I know the debate in Israel. There is a spectrum of opinions on all ends. If it comes to officials, we can´t clearly distinguish genuine from tactics. I wrote enough on the question you were asking, which you ignored again and again.

Your analysis of the Iranian domestics and rationale is so incredibly misperceived that it would make no sense to further discuss this if we do not seriously follow each others paths in the research.

Examples like this:

"With fear being the leitmotif of US Iran policy, especially prevalent in the Congress, it was made almost impossible for Rafsanjani and Khatami to carry out their reform agenda, the first with his eye on foreign investments in the oil sector (see also Amrit’s piece) and the latter with his Dialogue of Civilizations."

Portraying Rafsanjani and Khatami as reformers and identifying a "dialogue of civilization" is the maximum amount of naivety and the proven success of their rhetoric tactics. I tell you seriously, recheck your picture with Farsi-speakers, because you will be held accountable for your words in future debates.
 
Joshua  Clapp

February 14, 2012

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If Israel could somehow steer the West into quieter waters, and that would actually help the situation in the long-term, then certainly that is a good thing.

Vince, I am not disregarding Israel’s own antagonism towards Iran. But it should be acknowledged that there is antagonism coming from both sides. And it is a good point that Iran would be motivated by the fact that Israel possesses nuclear weapons (in addition to the threat of ‘regime change’ for Iran). However, I am not sure what would motivate Israel to ever consider getting rid of its nuclear arsenal.

Sascha, it is important to explain where policies come from and identify the perceptions of policy-makers. The domestic and psychological underpinnings are obviously important to understand. But if there is going to be some kind of engagement, then the burden is on both parties, not simply the West. For example, with regard to Iran and the United States, that means each side attempting to understand the other's domestic and psychological underpinnings to a certain extent.

Then again, I doubt very much that understanding the exact domestic and psychological underpinnings for why the Iranian regime wishes that Israel disappear would actually help steer the discussion in a helpful manner.
 
Florian  Broschk

February 15, 2012

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Mr. Anziger,
Your argumentation sounds in parts very arrogant and I wonder what the base for it is. Quotations: "Your analysis of the Iranian domestics and rationale is so incredibly misperceived", "maximum amount of naivety" or telling someone "seriously, recheck your picture with Farsi-speakers". Especially the last one sound indeed laughable - what is this supposed to mean?

Just as an example - I know literally hundreds of Farsi speakers, inside and outside Iran. Ranging from supporters of the Green movement, adherents to the various factions of the regime to sympathizers of the terrorist anti-regime organization Mujahedin-e Khalq. Even Iranian Jews, by the way. And then of course a rather apolitical majority. Needless to say that everyone has a different understanding of Iranian politics and what lies at its heart. I am myself a fluent Farsi speaker, have lived and studied there (political science and international law at Tehran university) and back in Germany taught courses on Iranian politics, just to mention. Still I would not claim the mythical knowledge of "really knowing" what is going on inside Iranian politicans' brains you seem to attribute to yourself or "your" Farsi-speakers.

The position that Mr. Lohmann advocates is fairly in line with what many well-connected and well-experienced researchers on Iran argue. Your guess, on the other hand, that the regime is motivated by extreme anti-semitism is a quite extreme position, to be found in only some very small circles in the debate. Both among Iranians in exile, who hate the regime, and people who have little first-hand knowledge, studying the same closed circle of anti-Iranian propaganda again and again. There is little factual basis for it - "exterminating" Jews or Afghans or Sunnis has never been advocated by the regime, quite to the contrary. Most people who allege this "secret desire" try to found their arguments in drawing analogies to the Nazis - having the added bonus that you don't need to understand Iran if you just see them as the second coming of the Nazis. But then again, so have George W. Bush, Israel itself or now chancellor Merkel been labeled, just as a few examples. It is of little analytical value.

Your ardent support for Israel and fervent belief in your own positions is admirable, but may mislead and blind you regarding the aspects of the world you live in. For me, the first war I was a very, very small part of - thirteen years back - was exactly to restore the right to return of a Muslim population which had been ethnically cleansed from their homelands. This does not make me an advocate of forcingly bringing the offspring of the Palestinian refugees back to Israel/ Palestine (and I completely agree with you, that International Law will always be invoked by all sides to conflicts). Still, a right to return for refugees is at least not as far-fetched as you seem to think of. But that is not the point here. With regard to Iran, there are many more reasons to support the Palestinians and even the violent support of their struggle than just anti-semitism. The perception of Israel being the product of an illegal invasion of the Palestinan's land is a reality for large part of the Iranian society. Even supporters of a rapprochement with Israel (like Khatami) adhere to this view, yet because of the realities of Israel being strong and Iran being weak, they argue based on the interest of the survival of the system - the cornerstone of the Islamic Republic, both in all of their sayings so far as well as all in their deeds.

And the very undemocratic institution of the Supreme Leader in itself seems to ensure in a perverse way a rational angle to the Islamic Republic's Foreign policy. The same, unfortunately, cannot be said of Israeli politics, which seem to be driven more by short-term political gains of the politicians in power. Thus the issue of the occupation - a real long-term threat to the existence of the Israeli state - is left unaddressed because the attention of the Nation and the world are redirected on the Nuclear programm of a weak Nation nearby.
 
Florian  Broschk

February 15, 2012

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Mr. Clapp,
if we just take the National interest of the Nations involved - the West, Israel, Iran - into account, we can say that right now, the ruling elite in Iran does not seem to suffer that much. They are refocusing Iran's foreign and trade relations to the East, a long standing goal, and thus increasingly marginalize the pro-western middleclass with its close ties to Europe and the US. The short-term economic losses are regrettable, but part of the gain. Even a possible attack on Iranian nuclear facilities would be a heaven-sent gift for the hardliners, galvanizing support and providing the opportunity to alter the fundaments of power. We in the West, however, suffer some minor economic gains for the time being, but risk to be involved in yet another regional war. That said, we have to admit that we should indeed have stronger incentive to redraw the parameters of the current struggle towards disengagement, getting rid of military rethorics and deterrence of what power Iran could possibly project. By refraining from doing so we risk being face with dynamics which push us into doing things we would never rationally consider when just taking our interests into account.

And paying more serious attention towards what Iran is, what assets they have, what they probably want to achieve and how they will do it, as well as how and where we can cooperate and how and where we will confront them is urgently needed. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, the discussion revolves in closed circles on very little efforts of trying to understand Iran and very much efforts of how we have to confront them because they are obviously dangerous because everyone who writes about them (and wrote about the Greek economy yesterday and the death of Whitney Houston the day before) seems to believe it.
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 15, 2012

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Mr. Broschk,

in my comment I was addressing Mr. Lohmann, and you should now that our discussion has a history. We have the same arguments over and over again. There is no reason for me to be arrogant, because I am always the youngest and less experienced in this community (I am still and undergraduate student). That is more the reason why I tend to choose a very harsh language - I am young, I can make mistakes. But indeed the comment you cite was unnecessary.

Nevertheless I would not be so outspoken about the topic here if I wouldn´t be absolutely certain.

I have the impression: it is either you think Israel is the problem, or you think Iran is the problem. You make that quite clear: "[...] seems to ensure in a perverse way a rational angle to the Islamic Republic's Foreign policy. The same, unfortunately, cannot be said of Israeli politics [...]" The literature and education feeds intellectuals and institutions on both sides. But the blaming-Israel side is wrong. You might say it is not that simple, but you are seriously speaking of "Ethnical cleansing" - which is a grave distortion of history. It would require an immense amount of time and literature to counter each others perception in this instance where it comes to this one point: the existence of Israel is fundamentally right, or fundamentally wrong. You have the latter perception and that is obviously the reason why you defend and whitewash the murderers in their own homeland who threaten to annihilate another people.

To me it is very clear, Israel is a vibrant democracy and Iran is a brutal theocracy that oppresses women and hangs homosexuals on cranes.

 
Florian  Broschk

February 15, 2012

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Mr. Anzinger - then lets not focus on too harsh language anylonger. However, I would also like to clarifiy some things. I am surely neither "for" Iran or "against" Israel. With ethnic cleansing I referred to the 1998/99 events in the Kosovo - Serbish supporters might object, but lets not argue this one. Israel in my view is the most likeable of all countries in the region - but it is also not perfect and it is perfectly understandable if people do not like and blame Israel for things they did. Thus, I absolutely agree with you that Israel is a vibrant democracy and - what is even more to me - an ally of us in the "West". I do not even have problems with not so vibrant democracies, as long as they are our allies (Bahrain, for example), but we should chose wisely here. Iran, on the contrary, is not our ally but a strategic adversary from many angles. I would not chose as harsh words as you when you describe Iran, but I have a pretty negative view of the currently ruling elites and I would personally love to see a lot of things changed in Iran. That said, I also have the first-hand experience that things are rarely black and white, neither in Iran nor in Afghanistan where I actually sort of fought for the regime which is currently in place (and it is not a vibrant democracy... neither are our allies, but we had to chose them anyway) and still work and live.

I am passionate, however, of basing our Foreign policy on a rational strategy: an assessment of what we (and other actors want) and what we can achieve - and then how to. And then we have to pick our sides, not based on personal sympathy. Israel, I agree is pretty much on our side, but that does not mean we have to agree to everything the government does. In my view, Iran (though surely not an ally) is not a threat to us and neither to Israel and far less dangerous than the strategic threat I perceive from the Sunni radicals - Saudi Arabia, the Muslim brotherhood-linked movements (both for us and towards Israel). Iran is regionally pretty much isolated and will stay so. It does nasty things, but then - so do we (which I enthusiastically endorse as long as it serves our interests). Iran has always focused on regime survival and quietly cooperated with everyone in- and outside who helped. It was a useful ally in overthrowing the common enemies, Taliban and Saddam. Yes - they became stronger by these two wars, but with that they pretty much exhausted their potential. Domestically they are weak, militarily they are no match for the US, Israel - even the Europeans. But I don't see the necessity to corner Iran, which in my view is advocated by irrational fears of Iran.
 
Sascha  Lohmann

February 15, 2012

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As Niklas referred to our previous discussion, I wanted to give you an example of how the current fear-based approach described in the original article inhibits progress. The former ex-Iranian negotiator mentioned in the following article told me that Russia made a step-by-step proposal similar to our concrete reciprocity framework in 2010 (http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2012/02/140735.html). Regrettably, it was rejected by "the United States and key European nations" even though Russia's support would be crucial in any framework of such a kind. Overcoming the distrust toward an indigenous Iranian enrichment capacity is obviously the most pressing issue here.

In his book "The Promise. President Obama, Year One", Newsweek reporter Jonathan Alter describes that Obama privately settled on a policy of “limitation with inspection” concerning uranium enrichment already in 2009. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in March 2011 stated that "“[i]t has been our position that, under very strict conditions, Iran would sometime in the future, having responded to the international community’s concerns and irreversibly shut down its nuclear weapons program, have a right [to enrichment] under IAEA inspection.” Apparently, the fundamental preconditions for enrichment within an inspection regime are given. But why has this not being discussed any further and why are many pundits instead discussing the simplistic option of a military strike?

In a striking parallel to Sadam Hussein's Iraq in early 2003, it is the missing information about a potential military dimension of the nuclear program that stands in the way. Rationalist bargaining theory would predict that once all sides have complete information about each others capabilities, deterrence would eventually make war obsolete because both sides could rationally anticipate the future outcome of a confrontation on the basis of their respective capabilities. But even if we have complete information, as in the Iraqi case, a fear-based approach would still suspect that there might be missing information.

And this is why we need to discuss concrete steps that would overcome this distrust. Only then can leaders make “rational” decisions. But with fear prevailing, such frameworks will be rejected out of hand from the beginning. Instead of discussing the tactical implications of a military strike, we should focus on how we can build trust between the West and Iran.


 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 15, 2012

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Mr. Broschk,

my apologies for misreading you. I contributed too heatedly the longer the debate lasted.

I would disagree about Iran not being a threat. As I see it, the Iranians have long been preparing for mass scale military operations (huge increases in budget and armed men) , they have proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) and sleeper cells in European countries. Inside men leaked disputes about detailed plans of launching asymmetric wars in possible scenarios of invasion. Their strength comes very much from the ability of playing different actors in the West against one another. And the nuclear program is the very means and cornerstone for that.
 
Bernhard  Lucke

February 15, 2012

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Thank you for the very interesting discussion and the most valuable article. It is very important to point out that the current fear-based discussion misses the real issues, and blocks ways of reaching solutions. The ultimate goad must be to de-escalate tensions in the region, to restore a minimum of trust (and if only between enemies who respect each other), and aim towards a balance that allows long-term peaceful development of the Middle East.

Policies during the last decade unfortunately went a different way and I am afraid that a military showdown with Iran comes closer and closer - not at least because of the financial crisis and the diminishing use of the dollar for oil purchases. In this context, the article for me is a call to keep the mind clear and calm, but I am to some degree pessimistic that it will succeed.

The biggest problem is keeping face: both the U.S. and Iran have locked themselves to such a degree in the symbolic issue of nuclear enrichment, that I'm afraid none is willing to move at this point, and if so, the logical consequence will be war. This would also fit the logics of western engagement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. But in Iran, the consequences will be much more severe, if not devastating.

We as Europeans must find a way to deescalate the situation, or we may find us suddenly caught in a quagmire of conflict that will likely devastate the Middle East as did WW II Europe. And it might be difficult to stay neutral, remembering the Bush slogan: "Who is not with us is against us".
 
Joshua  Clapp

February 15, 2012

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Bernhard,

The issue of keeping face does seem to be the largest problem. If either side backs down, then the other side 'loses' in this supposedly zero-sum game. As such, I am also somewhat pessimistic at the moment. If Europeans should help deescalate the current situation, then what do you think are some of the more concrete policy steps Europe could take in order to reach that goal?
 
Bernhard  Lucke

February 16, 2012

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Dear Joshua,

some concrete policy steps have already been mentioned by Sascha Lohmann and other authors. The arguments all center around establishing a system of checks and balances, and integration of Iran into the regional policy system. And: get the F**** symbolic issues out of the media!

In the media mostly a very simple equation is presented: if controlling the full nuclear cycle -> Iran will build nuclear weapons -> once it has nuclear weapons it will eradicate Israel.

This equation is not only full of question marks, it also misses the real dangers. For example, Israel is not so much threatened by Iran's military capacity - a direct attack, even if partially successful, is suicide for Iran and they know that. But if terrorist groups can acquire material for a dirty bomb and smuggle it into Israel this would be a real horror scenario, but which does not depend on whether Iran controls the nuclear fuel cycle or not.

What is really going on - in my opinion and as it seems the opinion of many commentators here - is a power struggle for regional dominance between the US and Israel on the one side, and Iran and friends on the other side. What makes this struggle really dangerous is that China and Russia more and more side with Iran. But this is not surprising, given that the U.S. already played the military card in Iraq and Afghanistan, and given that the run for resources is getting more and more competitive.

To some degree the situation reminds me of Europe: before WW I or during the cold war. These probably give good examples for the options we currently have: talk with the enemy as Brandt did, and this way de-escalate the whole situation, or entrench in your positions, center around symbols, and let the conflict grow as in pre-war Europe until it develops its own dynamics that cannot be controlled any more.

What we read and hear in our media, the whole agitation about the uranium enrichment, is already war proganda, and it is digusting that war is still a possible option. To me as a German it seems that Americans simply don't know what it means to have war in their country, and perhaps the defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan were simply not enough to learn the Middle East lesson. The frequent considerations of a 'limited military strike' against Iran's nuclear facilities are not a 'credible threat', they are war-mongering. We must not wonder if we suddenly tumble into a regional war - there are already way too many aggressions in our words and the media in general.

This must be stopped. Take the issue out of the headlines and get back to the political and diplomatic work, clear-minded and not guided by fears.
 
Niklas  Anzinger

February 16, 2012

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Let me make a comment about the debate before about doubts in Israel about a preemptive military strike: the most outspoken case for being cautious with military considerations was perhaps ex-Mossad chief Meir Dagan. Counter to what was impression here, Dagan does acknowledge the existential threat and necessity of red lines regarding Iran; he is concerned about Israeli decisionmakers making a hasty and unconsidered move. And that is an absolutely valid critique from my point of view, of course military action would cause immense trouble and dangers and the Israelis are quite sensitive (which is quite reasonable because the existential threat is real) and could make a hasty move - but Dagan knows it is the only second worst option. We don´t have exact knowledge about the time frame, because public announcement are not distinguishable from tactics - but this never mattered for my argument at least. Here is a debate between Bernard Lewis, Uri Lubriani and Meir Dagan about Iran, and I can fully agree with their conclusions: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/287175/historian-diplomat-an...

One more comment on Bernhard´s contribution: there is actually two interpretations which developments led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, one about Brandt´s attempt, one about Reagan´s attempt. In Germany hardly anyone discusses Reagan and interestingly you claim, because Germany has launched two of the most horrific wars in the entire history (at least younger history) Germany now knows better. Like annihilation war is an instance for moral betterment or the Germans (also a common interpretation) were driven into the wars by their leadership and learned from their failures.

About your "war mongering"-argument: what if a preemptive strike prevents a much more dangerous full-scale war? Are there no possible scenarios where this could be the case? Should Israel not have destroyed the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1983 and the Syrian one in 2007. I mean, just to give the argument some credit - for my part, I don´t see war mongering, in fact nobody speaking of a military option who does not acknowledge its immense danger and only speaking of a last resort of action if other attempts fail. Could you tell me, is there a position claimed by eminent figures in which this is not acknowledged?
 
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February 17, 2012

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We are all adults here, let us stop thinking about the life we live today, and focus on the future - Iran with nuclear weapons.

I have not yet read a comment that denied the fact that time will come when Iran will be seating at the table of nuclear nations. It is a question of a year or two, maybe more, but is that really relevant or is it more important who will represent the nation at the 'table'? Niklas Anzinger (above), pointed to an interesting article that, though pro-Israel in my opinion, raises an important point: 'guns don't kill people; people kill people'.

Military occupation of such a vast country, with quite different climates and twice as many people as Iraq is ludicrous, not to consider the fuelling of hate towards the US or any occupation force. Whether a pre-emptive strike by Israel would be internationally acceptable would be more of a debate topic than its realistic effect in stopping the nuclear program. If anything, would give the world another year or so to go around the same line of thought and reach no solution.

History shows mixed results with economic sanctions. Saddam Hussein was still in power even after some of the most severe sanctions were placed towards his country. It affected more his people than him or his power basis. Some may say a revolution in Iraq was eminent, exactly because the sanctions were affecting the people and 'power lays with the people'. A shame the US never let us test that thesis.

Regime change is needed, or at least, the change of presidency towards a more pro-western candidate. The solution is not to isolate a regime that seems every day keener to reach nuclear empowerment, but to find someone who can lead it towards integration. Referring back to the article suggested by Anzinger, the west lost an opportunity to back civilians after the fraudulent presidential election in 2009. A new election will be held in June 2013 and it is the civil society who needs to determine whether extremism is what they have in mind or if the MAD effect enters into place and an understanding is reached. Iran is a country that never initiated an attack in the last 50 years against another nation, nor has it used its chemical weapons when attacked (contrary to US backed Iraq in the Iraq-Iran War).

Threaten Iran and it is ever more likely to strike back, after all ' a cornered rat will bite a cat'. Give it the tools to become a regional powerhouse of tolerance and respect, included in negotiation tables and following international norms. By that I don't mean given them weapons of mass destruction, but give them the means to be responsible by the time they ever get them.
 
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February 24, 2012

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Hey Sascha,

Congratulations on a great& insightful article that offers some much-needed new thinking on the conflict and on sanctions in general. I think the piece is of paricular value since it points into the direction of some much-needed re-thinking about sanctions and their efficiency.You rightly point out that recent research can and indeed does offer some valuable insights into the shortcomings of sanction regimes and deterrence theory. One can only hope that policy-makers will engage with that literature since it is hugely policy-relevant. However, I am afraid that in the case of the current conflict we are already locked-in into the politics of a realist self-fulfilling prophecy with no escape route in sight.

I hope you continue working AND publishing on the topic. It is simply too important to be discussed in academic circles alone.

Stephan
 
Sascha  Lohmann

February 25, 2012

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Stephan, thank you for your comment and encouragement. The recent post by Nina Tannenwald on Stephen Walt's blog (http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/02/24/guest_post_using_rel...), highligting the crucial role religious and moral norms could play in the standoff, might signal that realists begin to reconsider the fatal consequences of their fear-based policy prescriptions and explore other paths to strategy.
 

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