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February 2, 2012 |  33 comments |  Print  Your Opinion  

Hungary: A Test Case for EU Relevance

Jack Bicker: The diplomatic turmoils surrounding domestic politics in Hungary are a chance for EU institutions to define their effectiveness at a moment of significant flux. They also confirm that a potentially consolidated EU could be a strong and valued partner in a continuing transatlantic alliance.

"We called for a real commitment to the independence of the judiciary, a free press, and governmental transparency, because it's important not only for Hungarians... but... that we continue to exemplify democratic values and freedoms... for the benefit of our own people and for the transatlantic alliance, but also as examples for those who are struggling to define their own democracies now in the Middle East and North Africa."

Hillary Clinton (June 2011)

In 2010 Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, led his centre-right Fidesz party to a sweeping electoral victory, winning two thirds of parliamentary seats against a backdrop of both incumbent government corruption, and anxieties stemming from the current financial crisis. Armed with this powerful mandate, Orban's government has embarked upon a wide-ranging set of constitutional reforms that have blurred the rightful separation of powers and raised concern on both sides of the Atlantic.

Of the 200 new laws breathlessly passed since Mr Orban arrived in office, those that have garnered most international attention have included the forced retirement of 270 judges, new laws allowing greater state control of the media, and the political appointment of Fidesz party loyalists to positions controlling the judiciary and the country's central bank.

The President of the European Commission, Manuel Barroso has made it clear that such democratic curbs contravene the Copenhagen Criteria that define the basic political expectations incumbent upon EU members, and the Commission has this week launched legal action against Mr Orban's increasing centralisation of power. In addition to pressure from the US, further pressure has been exerted on Hungary by the IMF: Hungary, whose economy has recently received a further credit downgrade, is requesting a standby arrangement of some US$15.7 billion. Director Christine Lagarde has blocked negotiations until Hungary has exhibited tangible steps towards both ensuring macroeconomic stability, and "support for European authorities and institutions."

Two significant conclusions can be drawn from the diplomatic efforts made over the last seven months by the US, the IMF and more recently by the EU.

Firstly, it is clear that the European democratic model continues to be of great importance to the US. The US has a long, and sometimes bruising, history of striving to implant its own particular brand of democracy in various regions across the globe. The US doesn't only value European democracy because it functions as an additional "example for those who are struggling to define their own democracies now in the Middle East and North Africa", but because the democratic similarities between the US the EU make them natural allies in the United States' long term ideological foreign policy strategy. Whatever economic and security alliances the US is able to forge elsewhere, where else can the US turn to for such collective support in this regard? As the EU looks again at the shape of its future, and discerns a clearer collective identity, it would do well to bear this in mind.

Secondly, it is for the above reason that the EU should tread carefully as it approaches the current issues in Hungary. As Manuel Barroso said in a recent joint press conference with Mr Orban:

"It is not only the so-called "federalists" who want to see more economic governance and economic co-ordination in Europe...The markets are sending a very clear message that Europe must work in a more coordinated manner when it comes to economic and financial issues."

As the EU, and more specifically the Eurozone, attempts to streamline its collective decision making processes in the wake of its financial troubles, it must be seen to have developed the necessary structures to effectively hold its members to account. It has been fortunate that in addition to interventions from the EU, Hungary has also faced pressure from both the US and the IMF. The EU however should not come to rely on this external help. Not only must a strengthened Commission be ruthless in pursuing and halting Hungary's anti-democratic laws (as should be the case with all members), but it must also be able to ensure union-wide prudence in economic policy. If the EU fails to achieve this alone, it will not only lose credibility with markets, but will further erode its credability as a relevant collective voice at home and in the international arena.

Jack Bicker is an MA student in Philosophy of Public Policy at the University of London.

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Nemanja  Sukalo

January 30, 2012

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It is quite interesting that Mr Barosso speaks of democracy and democratic values.

I would like to remind the readers that after the failed and embarassing outcome of the European Constitution back in 2005 where France and the Netherlands voted no, and the UK, Ireland, Denmark, Poland and the Czech Republic were getting ready to do the same the European Union sacked the idea and went into a 'reflection period'.
According to the EU officials a new approach needed to be taken in order to bring the European Union closer to the European citizens. End result, the Lisbon Treaty.

All that the EU did was to paraphrase the EU constitution, remove a few controversial points such as the anthem, for example, and present it to the EU citizens and officials.
Most important thing the EU needed to do was to avoid various referenda. They achieved this through the name change. With the new document being a treaty countries were not obliged to hold referenda as supposedly it was not as game changing as a constitution.
However, only Ireland had to do so due to its constitutional obligation. After the first no, the EU pressured the Irish into voting yes by reminding them that they might need financial assistance from the EU at the time of crisis.
That is how the Lisbon Treaty was accepted in the EU. Some like the Czech President Klaus oppenly opposed such undemocratic process but there wasn't much he could do.

Within the Lisbon Treaty we can find some parts which are nothing more and nothing less than insults of the democratic process. I am referring to the yellow and orange cards. These cards were introduced by the EU in order to make the national parliaments more involved with the decision making processes in the EU. However all it does is humiliate the national parliaments by showing them how little power they have when facing the massive Brussels administration. That is, they will get to face this embarassment after they have overcome a series of hurdles.

What the EU fails to understand is that both Fidesz and Jóbbik are democratically elect parties, meaning that their actions are in line with the wishes of the Hungarian people. Their views and positions on various issues were known before the elections, so all these processes do not come as a surprise.
The removal of democracy can be a democratic process- best proof being Hungary.

Personally I do not agree with the measures introduced by the Hungarian government but I do respect that the Fidesz-Jobbik coalition has been achieved through fair and legit democratic elections.
 
Mathew  Shearman

January 31, 2012

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Thanks for your views Jack & Nemanja,

To Nemanja --- are you suggesting that because the laws of the Lisbon Treaty were passed 'undemocratically' it justifies ignoring them - and in Hungary's case pursuing ends that contravene the precendent they are supposed to set? I'm not saying I disagree with you necessarily, only that the Copenhagen criteria was established well before that, and they democratically 'opted in' to that system when they joined the EU.

Surely the argument here is less that the EU loses relevancy because of Mr. Barosso than if it cannot compel its members to live by the rules they are in charge of maintaining. If they cannot compel states to live by rules they officially commit to, how can the central institutions be called anything other than irrevelant in the long time? - its hardly power behind the 'massive Brussels administration' and yellow cards or not, I agree with Jack here.

This is a particularly acute issue at the moment because large questions are emerging on what the future structure of Europe will look. If the central institutions cannot be shown to compel states to follow even the most standard human rights codes how can it be expected that states will follow the norms and values of the system when it comes to financial issues?

And if, as Jack points out, financial threats do drive certain actions -- The question is will the states that financially punish them be acting in the European system's wider interest or on a more traditional particular national interests. Quite a threat to the future stability of the EU.
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David  Grodzki

February 1, 2012

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Very nice article. I read it with great pleasure, and as I currently live in Hungary (though I do not speak the language and rely on the help of my friends here to understand what is going on; that is before Western media reports it) the issues mentioned affect me to some extent. Nemanja is certainly right that the changes brought about are democratically legitimized, however, if a country is democratically turned into an authoritarian regime without freedom of speech, independent branches of justice, financial institutions, etc., the EU as one of the world's biggest and most important promoters of democracy has to step in.

Jack is pointing to a good point - the financial issues the country currently has could, and I believe should, be used by the EU to pressure Orbán to undo some of those changes that are clearly against the values and beliefs of the European community.

What Nemanja points out is a favourite for all critics of the EU, it's undemocratic character. Certainly the EU is not as democratic as it should be - but this is a process that will certainly take some more time to develop. Currently we can vote for the European Parliament, which, I think, is actually a good thing, especially since it now has co-decision powers. The next step might be to vote for a European President, but without a constitution, which many eurosceptic countries and especially their even more eurosceptic populations do not want, such a development will not be possible.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 1, 2012

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Two points, somewhat contradictory, that I agree with:

Matt (and Jack) are correct that ultimately, if the EU cannot wield some coercive power over its member governments, especially in regards to fundamental democratic freedoms, than it is headed towards the path of irrelevancy. It is interesting that Jack says that the EU is closest model to the United States in the world. The US established early on that the federal, inter-state government was willing and able to impose its powers on the states. Not that it was easy; such arguments led to the US Civil War and are still debated today, but the precedent that there was some recognition of federal legitimacy had been set.

The EU is still caught somewhere in-between, gaining more supranational institutions, but also still founded primarily on international treaties. Which brings up the second point: yes, it IS a big problem that the European Constitution failed. The EU's problem is not so much a democratic deficit as a legitimacy deficit; many Europeans reject the EU as a body that holds legitimate power, let alone represents them. In many ways, they are right; the Eurocrisis summits have been driven by national leaders, not European representatives, and it doesn't seem like that will change anytime soon.

So the EU has a twofold problem: citizens are less and less inclined to support EU institutions they view as illegitimate, and national governments are naturally reticent to give up any real power. Before attempting to design another bureaucratic solution, EU leaders should consider these fundamental issues.

So, in a roundabout way, this brings us back to Hungary (and so many other issues). How can you declare a strong position on something when you still haven't figured out what you really represent?
 
Nemanja  Sukalo

February 2, 2012

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Matthew,

How can a law ensure and propagate democracy when its own existence came from undemocratic ways?
My main problem is that the European Union is currently creating an image of being a beacon of democracy and freedom while at the same time was not being capable to pass the Lisbon Treaty/Constitution with the legitimate approval of its citizens.
If they felt the need to replace the term constitution with treaty in order to bypass the referenda shouldn't that be a sign that something is wrong?
Either the European population is not ready for such a large leap or the Brussels administration is not capable of working efficiently for the well-being of its citizens. Personally I think it's a bit of both.

When it comes to Hungary the European Union is clearly going against the majority of the Hungarian population which voted Fidesz/Jobbik into the office. If the EU was as democratic as its claims to be, then why not ask the Hungarian government to organize a referendum on the new media law? Oh yes, the EU is not big on referendums...

The whole idea of the EU Constitution/Lisbon Treaty was to bring the EU closer to its people. European citizens said no the first time, so what did the administration do? Looked for ways to bypass the citizens so that it could still implement its own document against the will of its people.

How can the EU have legitimacy when it puts its own interests ahead of those of the member states? Hungary is the best example of EU's failure to extend its own legitimacy and influence in order to create a European state in stead of a Hungarian one. The new constitution introduced by Fidesz/Jobbik is a clear sign of that. It portrays Hungary as the land of Christian Hungarians whose government has a duty to protect its own citizens as well as those living outside its borders (referring to the lands lost after the Treaty of Trianon). Now, wasn't the whole idea of European Union the removal of borders and everyone becoming an EU citizen?
I repeat, Jobbik/Fidesz coalition got 70% of the Hungarian vote in the last elections. This clearly depicts the mood in the Pannonian plain. Not to mention that Slovakia and Hungary are going to court because Slovakia forbade the Hungarian president to enter Slovakia in order to visit the Komarom. Both countries are members of the European Union and the Schengen zone, yet they still take reassurance in their own 'traditional' borders as protection.

Another good example is that of Cyprus. Recently a Russian cargo ship carrying weapons to Syria needed to refuel in the Cypriot port of Limassol. Cyprus being an EU member had the obligation to confiscate the cargo due to the arms embargo. What did Cyprus do? It asked the Russians for reassurance that the cargo would not go to Syria. After the Russians promised the Cypriots refuelled the ship and gave them the permission to leave the port.
How about that? What should Brussels do when an EU member state has more trust in Moscow than them?

Finally, even outside the European Union countries which have been paving their own road towards Brussels are reconsidering it now. The support for EU membership in Serbia has gone below 50%, 44% of Moldova's population prefers union with the Russian Federation.
 
David  Grodzki

February 2, 2012

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Your position is certainly not entirely flawed, however, I do think that one can look at it from a different position as well. Think of Germany after World War 2. The constitution the country received was not so much a product of German political thinking as much as the result of what the Allied Victors demanded. Yes, this might have been undemocratic, but the result is one of the best functioning and well-respected democracies in the world.

As for the European population rejecting a European constitution - it is not that surprising if you look at how the EU is portrayed in the media, especially the tabloids that continue to influence a large part of the population. Those countries that are not major recipients of EU monies, such as Germany or France continue to read mostly about how the EU is wasting their money to save lazy Greeks or irresponsible Spaniards. The fact that the EU is a major source of their economic success (especially in the case of Germany the removal of tariffs and borders has been a godsend) is simply ignored. Those that follow the EU through usage of such media will never be in favour of the EU.
The Irish might have rethought their decision to vote in favour of the Lisbon treaty - true, as you say, because the country was in grave need of financial help - but Ireland's economic miracle would not have been possible in the first place without EU membership. The fact that Poland continues to enjoy economic growth is only partly explained by the fact that it has very strong domestic demand for goods. The other truth is that EU money is supporting growth and especially infrastructural projects.

As for what you say about Hungary. May I ask if you would consider it democratic and fine if the Orbán government (with its majority in parliament) would declare Roma non-human? Would you be fine if government declared that the new electoral law would foresee elections once in a blue moon? Or if it would curb the right of citizens to demonstrate or even voice criticism about what is happening in the country? All this could especially be passed through parliament, democratically, but would you consider there is no reason the EU should step in? Fidesz won the elections because the previous governments could not help the country turn the tide and after Gyurcsany admitted to electoral lies, people got p*ssed and took the alternative that actually did not even promise more than "change". With such a majority in parliament one would expect the government to adopt policies to change the situation the country for the better, but Orbán is fighting ghosts, past enemies (or why would the new constitution say in its preamble that the Socialist party is responsible for all the crimes committed by the Communists and its successors, including the economic troubles of the 2000s?) and cementing his position in office.

Just out of curiosity: What would be the alternative for Serbia? Do you really believe it will be able to succeed on its own in the global economy? Moldova, too, finds itself in a difficult situation, but if 44% support a union with Russia, this still means the majority does NOT support such an option.

As for Cyprus - all I say is "Russian trojan horse". It has the major source of FDI in Russia because rich Russians "park" their money in banks on the island. It receives substantial parts of its income from Russian tourists. And it knows that the worst that could happen to it right now would be some harsh words from the Commission for having acted against the position of the EU.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 2, 2012

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David,

A number of your arguments are based on the fact that states have no where else to turn. They will be left out in the cold if they don't join (or stay in) the EU. That may be true, and it may cause their governments to go along, but "having no choice" is a poor foundation on which to build an enduring union. Those that may have nowhere else to turn now will not always be in such a situation, and then they will simply end a marriage of convenience.

The fact is, tabloids reflect what people want to hear. Compare the difference between tabloids in Europe, many rabidly anti-EU, and tabloids in the US, generally chest-thumpingly pro-America, and you'll see the problem of the EU's place in national psyches.
 
Nemanja  Sukalo

February 2, 2012

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David,

So whose fault is it that the tabloids write such things about the EU? Are we going to blame the citizens of the EU or the EU administration for not doing enough, or not caring enough, about its own image among its own citizens? If the EU cared then they would have listened to its tax payers and tried to understand why they opposed this constitution, and then tried to make a document that is acceptable for them, instead of paraphrasing a hostile document and then introducing it against the will of the majority.

Are you actually implying that the Irish would have never been capable of fixing their economy without the EU? That is quite an insult for the Irish.

As for the whole, Hungary making Romas non-humans in the parliament, well though I wouldn't agree with that decision, I would have to respect it as it is the will of the Hungarian people and it was achieved through a democratic process. You can not have selective democracy and enforce it only when it suits you. If the Hungarian population elects a government which is encouraging those views then no institution/country/union which advocates for democracy can oppose it. Now if the Hungarian government would make such a move what the EU could do is point out that in case it intends on introducing such a law then it would have to leave the Union.

As for the EU stepping in, no I do not think it should. Like I said above it should give Budapest a choice, stay in the Union and abandon the law or keep it but leave the Union.

Also, why was Malév forced to pay back the money it had received from the Hungarian state since it was privatized some years ago? Why wasn't the same EU strategy applied to airBaltic of Latvia when back in December 2011 it was renationalized and received state funding? Why wasn't the same done for the now defunct Spanair which regularly received funding from the Catalan government? Same with Cyprus Airways... it's a simple answer: double standards.

Regarding Serbia, as long as the EU forces the recognition of Kosovo we will not make any progress towards the Union. I do not want to enter the whole discussion of Serbia vs the world as this is not the place for such a discussion. All that I will say is that EU's actions towards Serbia have pushed it closer to both Russia and China.

Regarding Moldova, there is still a large percentage of population that is undecided. All they need is 6% to have majority. That is really not a lot.

I think that inhumane treatement of Hungarians in southern Slovakia is far more worrying, just as much as the Benes decrees still being active in both Slovak and Czech constitutions. We can also discuss how little was done in regards to restitution in Poland.
Why isn't anyone adressing those issues?

I think the idea of the European Union is a great one, but its fragility was best portrayed at a time of crisis when every single state started defending itself and not the Union as a whole. This shows the failure of the system and that once this crisis is gone the EU administration should work on that. I just hope that the outcome of their effort will be better than what we saw with the EU Constitution and the Lisbon Treaty.
 
David  Grodzki

February 2, 2012

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Jason,

I know that my arguments might not be the most convincing ones, but if you think it true, most countries will see the advantage of being inside than outside the EU. Certainly the biggest one might be access to the European Market and having a say in European politics - something Norway is missing out (but can do so because of its great economic situation).
However, even if bigger states, such as Ukraine in the future, might have a choice, I believe most small countries will actually find themselves worrying about their future in a highly competitive globalized world (and excuse my scepticism, but I do not see most of them turning into European versions of Taiwan or Singapore). But I agree that it would certainly be better if they decided to join the EU based on other reasons, such as belief in what the EU actually stands for and a shared commitment to those values.

Tabloids write what the people want to hear and certainly scandals, and exaggerations sell better than pieces that actually put the EU into a good light. I know this, however, as you might be aware of Germany's biggest tabloid claiming (correctly unfortunately) to "create opinion" (Bild dir deine Meinung!), this is hardly ever actually done in support of something other than German interests. I recall the ridiculous ideas of having Greece sell its islands to Germany in order to curb its deficit. Or the outcry when Greek media harshly criticised Germany for thinking aloud about installing foreign control over its finances.

This should not imply that I think tabloids in themselves are bad, however, I believe that it is always easier to point out the short-comings of something. What has been done and has benefited people is usually taken for granted. Open borders - thanks to Schengen - are not considered newsworthy or even something to be grateful for. The EU's efforts to reduce roaming costs for the armies of mobile phone users travelling Europe every year - a word of gratefulness maybe? How about (though this in itself is an issue that stirs many emotions) the EU subsidies for EU diary produce? No farmer or newspaper is going to acknowledge this. The EU has done many wonderful things for its citizens (and I use that term on purpose), but all it receives is bad publicity for it.
 
David  Grodzki

February 2, 2012

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Nemanja,

I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts with me, though I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree eventually.

I believe the problem the EU has is not so much that it does not care about what Europeans want, it simply is not able to convince them of many things. The EU is in dire need of good PR agents, but I think it is wrong to blame the EU as I believe most of the recent shortcoming are actually the result of national leaders doing a job the EU Commission was supposed to do. The bickering of heads of state/government in affairs such as the constitutional treaty and the incredible lack of effort to actually promote and support it in their respective countries (I do not recall a single effort by the German or Polish government to convince people that more Europe would be good for them!) are to blame for many of the problems the EU faces in the populations resentment.

As for Ireland - no, I did not say they would not have been able to solve the issue. All I wished to convey was my impression that because the EU stepped in, the country was able to bring it under control in a relatively short period of time and the current developments are certainly promising. Sure, without help the same would be achieved, but I think the costs might have been higher. Obviously, this is only my opinion and you do not need to agree.

Serbia is a special case and we have clashed on this issue before, thus I will not go down that path.

As for Malév and the other airlines, I have to admit that I do not know enough about their situations to judge how and why certain airlines were saved and others not. However, if you believe there is some kind of favourism going on in the EU, I would be curious to see how that one spreads out in Europe. As far as I would see it, you would see the EU in favour of Latvia, but with no mercy for Spain, Cyprus, Hungary. Maybe you are right but maybe you aren't.

You wrote: "I think that inhumane treatement of Hungarians in southern Slovakia is far more worrying, just as much as the Benes decrees still being active in both Slovak and Czech constitutions. We can also discuss how little was done in regards to restitution in Poland.
Why isn't anyone adressing those issues? "

I am not sure what you mean exactly but I would glad share in a discussion if you are willing to shed some light on these issues.
 
Jason  Naselli

February 2, 2012

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David,

As you point out, Norway still has sway because it has powerful economic interests. The influential states will always be so because of inherent power... whether they are formally in an organisation or not. This is why the uproar over the UK “losing a seat at the European table” by pulling away from the EU is overblown. The UK is a major economic force and has the strongest military in Europe... they will always have a say.

And you are right that the EU has brought a lot of benefits to citizens of its members. But do you really want people to come and say “oh, EU, thank you so much for my cheaper roaming charges?!”

You may use the term EU citizen on purpose, but how many people really feel that way. No one has ever died in an EU uniform or sung the EU national anthem (it has no words!) or, perhaps most importantly, cheered for an EU football team! Now the EU might succeed in good times because people vote with their wallets, but when things turn south, as we've seen, no one wants to hear of it. And the only way to fix that is to make it more identifiable to its peoples and repair at the very least the perception of a democratic deficit.
 
David  Grodzki

February 3, 2012

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Jason,

I do not doubt that the UK will be able to continue to play an important role in Europe and the world but I nonetheless believe that the EU might often have been a useful amplifier of UK interests and could certainly be so in the future again. As for Norway, certainly, as long as gas and oil are abundant, it will remain outside the EU. After that? We'll see.

As for EU citizens cheering - no, I would not necessarily have them do it, though I think I would appreciate hearing a good word or two about the EU once in a while. And this actually is my point. Bashing on the EU is immensely popular. Actually speaking out in favour it seems often like the beginning of a public flogging. Europeans will hopefully one day realise that a lot of the comfort they enjoy today - and the peace they have enjoyed since the end of World War 2 - is thanks to the EU and closer cooperation between countries on the old continent. But, you know, maybe they could say "Thank God, because of the EU I can travel through most of Europe and do not have to exchange my money whenever I cross a border; oh actually I do not even have to stop at borders any more either".

I see your arguments and I appreciate them, but do people in the UK identify with it because they have a common football national team or because of its anthem? Spain's anthem is without words, the EU anthem actually does have words if one really sticks properly to Schiller&Beethoven. Nonetheless, I am not sure this would really be necessary. The EU is not going to replace the nation-state, so states should keep their national pride, and regard the EU for what it should be - an umbrella organisation with potentially a government that allows member states enough freedom to enjoy national governments. Think of it as the United States of Europe, regardless of whether that is the best comparison.

You wrote: "And the only way to fix that is to make it more identifiable to its peoples and repair at the very least the perception of a democratic deficit."
I wholeheartedly agree. The EU needs to become closer to its peoples, and a major role in this lays with national governments. Too often have national governments identified themselves vs the EU, instead of identifiying themselves through cooperation with Europe. And it is, in my opinion, them that need to be blamed for the slow process in Europe and often strange or ridiculous negotiation outcomes. But nobody likes to talk about this :)

 
Jason  Naselli

February 3, 2012

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"Thank God, because of the EU I can travel through most of Europe and do not have to exchange my money whenever I cross a border; oh actually I do not even have to stop at borders any more either"

Now THAT's a good argument!

I really do agree with a lot of what you are saying and also think that the ideal is making the EU work for everyone. There just needs to be a greater awareness that that will not be done by dismissing those who hold anti-EU views as backward, but by confronting their issues, disproving those that are a misconception and making efforts to repair the real problems.

The problem is often the anti-EU posturing is being played for domestic politics. Changing the nature of politics seems quite the tall order, so how can the EU make itself less susceptible to that sort of opportunism?
 
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February 26, 2012

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The issue, brought up in the article is very interesting and the article itself is it too.
In the discussion there is one additional point which I consider most interesting. It is the idea of Fidesz-Jobbik coalition. Yes, both these parties constitute the political right side in Hungary and have something against the EU as well. But they definitely would be upset seeing that someone talks about them as allies of each other. Members from both Fidesz and Jobbik keep distancing themselves from the other. It is more and more rarely that they agree on something. However, in case of this ”freedom fighter” attitude they seem to have a very similar agenda. But they deny it anyway. Jobbik considers Fidesz a traitor (betraying the Hungarian population and serving the ”West”), while Fidesz calls Jobbik anti-democratic.
I think the main difference between them is that Fidesz still looks upon itself as a democratic party and wishes to be considered as such. As for Jobbik, the party's chairman, Gábor Vona has stated recently ”we are not democrats”.
All in all i find it very clever that you people here have come to this point, because in the end they are really in a kind of coalition. It is just rather hard (for me) to define what kind. If someone knows any definition or description for a situation between two parties like this, I would be really interested.
 
Carolina Joyce Garrido

May 3, 2012

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I wanted to make two points about your piece. First, I believe that the EU is far more progressive than the US in its values. Perhaps the US follow a foreign policy in which it attempts to argue for democracy, but the US fails in its means to achieve democracy. Not only do they intervene in too many instances violating the sovereignty of states, but when it comes to set up an example it fails to lead (the Kyoto protocol sets up the perfect example).
The European union is a unique supranational institution in which all members are expected to abide by EU law equally.
With respect to Hungary, it was wise to take measures slowly because this is not the only member of the EU that is in trouble; and if the EU proceeds in an aggressive way, it may lose more than actually accomplish. The pressures placed on Hungary finally achieved some results, and the EU already decided to allow Hungary to negotiate a loan with the IMF. There are different means to ensure compliance and negotiate changes (infringement procedures), and as long as they achieve results, the EU will not lose credibility. If too much pressure is put on too many weak members, then states might choose to ignore the EU and even leave its membership. The clue to this process is understanding the diversity of the EU members and allow this ongoing process of change to keep moving in the right direction, and adapt to achieve a true European Union.
 
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